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| On Nov 1 2005 12:42PM neil.wigglesworth wrote: |
Hi everyone
I would like to put together a (obviously rough!) picture of how ICNs are faring in the banding process.
So if you are willing I'd like to know, for those who've been 'banded', (sounds painful I know):
What band?
What was your existing grade under the old system?
I undestand if you'd rather e mail me directly rather than replying to the group.
I'll happily make aggregated anonymous results available to the group.
Thanks in advance
Neil
[email protected]
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| On Nov 2 2005 12:29PM jean.lawrence wrote: |
Neil
I was an I grade from 1985 and now on Band 8A. Nurse Consultant matching used for this banding.
Jean Lawrence
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| On Nov 2 2005 4:26PM patsyj.tandy wrote: |
| Took up newly created I Grade post in January 2005 and have been banded a 7 (see also reply to Debbie) There were issues around the fact that, to move into band 8 the Trust took the opinion that education at MSC level was necessary, or willingness to undertake, which was not included in my JD. Even more frustrating when I do have one. |
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| On Nov 4 2005 3:31PM Anna.Pronyszyn wrote: |
Jean, how come???????
Neil I have been banded an 8a without having to complete a JAQ. I think I submitted a good JD and as I took the job as an H, I was quite happy with the banding.
Anna |
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| On Nov 6 2005 1:39PM lorrainehome wrote: |
I was appointed as a Trainee infection control nurse
grade G and banded a 7 in July of this year.
--- [email protected] wrote:
> User [email protected] has started a
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> Yet more agenda for change
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> Hi everyone
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> I would like to put together a (obviously rough!)
> picture of how ICNs are faring in the banding
> process.
> So if you are willing I"d like to know, for those
> who"ve been "banded", (sounds painful I know):
> What band?
> What was your existing grade under the old system?
> I undestand if you"d rather e mail me directly
> rather than replying to the group.
>
> I"ll happily make aggregated anonymous results
> available to the group.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Neil
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> [email protected]
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| On Nov 6 2005 1:44PM lorrainehome wrote: |
I was appointed as a Trainee infection control nurse
grade G and banded a 7 in July of this year.
--- [email protected] wrote:
> User [email protected] has started a
> new thread on the ICNA forum. The post reads:
>
>
> Yet more agenda for change
>
> Hi everyone
>
> I would like to put together a (obviously rough!)
> picture of how ICNs are faring in the banding
> process.
> So if you are willing I"d like to know, for those
> who"ve been "banded", (sounds painful I know):
> What band?
> What was your existing grade under the old system?
> I undestand if you"d rather e mail me directly
> rather than replying to the group.
>
> I"ll happily make aggregated anonymous results
> available to the group.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Neil
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> [email protected]
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| On Nov 7 2005 1:37PM philip.pugh wrote: |
Hi all,
Havnt been banded yet though will let you know the outcome. I had to submit a comprehensive JAQ following submission of a JD but still waiting...exepct to hear in the next couple of weeks as the Trust is a bit behind.. I have been collecting a number of IC JD's and person specs if anyone want them then please email me direct not through the forum at [email protected]
Regards
Phil
ICNA Hon. Treasuer |
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| On Nov 7 2005 4:43PM p_suviste wrote: |
| Previously grade H, almost 8 years experience + IC qualification - Banded a 6. Currently appealing. |
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| On Nov 8 2005 12:19PM karen.hawker wrote: |
Hi, Phil,
are you still colecting JDs- you can have mine, if you would like - having AfC panel at the end of the month.
Karen |
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| On Nov 25 2005 3:39PM janis.west wrote: |
| G/H grades (dip/deg qualified + 3-7 yrs experience) have both been banded as 6 - trainee (F grade) as a 5. Lead nurse awaiting banding but probably will be a 7 (I grade!)All appealing needless to say! |
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| On Nov 28 2005 4:21PM anne.white wrote: |
Hi
Just graded at band 6. 5 years in community infection control nurse post with BSc infection control.
An appeal will be going in, the majority of lead nurses in other specialities have been banded on 7. Despite being the only ICN in the PCT I was not subjected to a JAQ |
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| On Dec 2 2005 4:42PM anne.white wrote: |
Hi
Was an H, now a grade 6. As a Community ICN is was banded against the Specialist Nurse (all our DNs are on band 6)
I'm now really cheesed off and appealing. Any help gratefully accepted |
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| On Dec 29 2005 4:00PM karen.hawker wrote: |
Hi,
Am an H grade. Have nearly five years experience in Community IC. Have an IC diploma & a post grad qual in Microbiology - banded a 7 - have been ordered to appeal by my manager.
Karen |
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| On Dec 29 2005 4:24PM ajtj wrote: |
Band 7 sounds about right to me. Band 8 is really Nurse consultant for which
you should have a Masters.
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| On Dec 31 2005 12:51PM karen.hawker wrote: |
Have started one & it is in my JD.
Karen |
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| On Jan 3 2006 2:34PM Watson.Christine wrote: |
Hi,
I have recently taken up a post with my local PCT and the grade is an 8A. I have a dgree and there has been no mention of my having to complete a masters. My previous post was as a G grage in the Acute Trust and they banded me a 6 mid point.
Hope this is of use to you
Christine |
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| On Jan 3 2006 2:34PM Watson.Christine wrote: |
Hi,
I have recently taken up a post with my local PCT and the grade is an 8A. I have a dgree and there has been no mention of my having to complete a masters. My previous post was as a G grage in the Acute Trust and they banded me a 6 mid point.
Hope this is of use to you
Christine |
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| On Jan 3 2006 8:09PM Jane.Dalling wrote: |
Hi Neil
As you probably know, us HPNs are still waiting to be banded, having all completed a questionnaire and interview. I think it is expected we will hear before April but it keeps getting put back.
I find it unbelievable that ICNs are coming out on 6s and 7s. It also seems that ICNs aren't really too sure what they should come out on. I would recommend that everyone should read the 'Job Evaluation Handbook' and score themselves. The band is dependent on the total score, not just whether you've done a masters or not.
Also if you look at the section on 'knowledge, training and experience', 'highly developed specialist knowledge' (level 7) refers to needing 'a combination of in-depth experience and postgrad or postreg study', which is certainly required by ICNs. Also it refers to Master's degree or 'equivalent experience'. It gives an alternative of 'significant formal training or research in a relevant field, in addition to short courses and experience'. So it isn't as clear cut as having a masters or not.
If you look at the national profiles, an 8A and 8B are suggested for modern matrons. So for those of you that are happy to accept a 7 you might want to compare your responsibility with them. Personally, I think you are selling yourselves short.
I find it amazing that there hasn't been more of a backlash and media interest about Agenda for Change - especially when you consider how much it has cost to implement and how many people seem to be losing out.
Good luck to all those appealing,
Jane Dalling
Senior Health Protection Nurse
Wiltshire Health Protection Team
Devizes Community Hospital
New Park Road
Devizes
Wiltshire
SN10 1EF
Tel: 01380 732599
Fax: 01380 726653
Email: [email protected]
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| On Jan 4 2006 10:45AM martin.kiernan wrote: |
I haven't even been interviewed yet, let alone being asked to complete a JAC.
Martin Kiernan
Southport |
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| On Jan 6 2006 1:32PM shona.henderson wrote: |
I took up an I grade post as a community ICN in September 2005, the job was subsequently awarded a band 7. All correspondence went to my predecessor and together we are appealing. I have two and a half years experience and have almost finished my BSc infection Control at Herts uni.
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